Herbalife Redux - Some Extra Shit To Read

Aidid Mu'addib said... (responding to JoeJambol):

I stand by my statement. Some cows do really eeeaaattt shhiiittt! Nak marah? Kepala hatok ko nak marah. Tell that to those people who get screwed with liver toxicity swallowing this kinda shit. Kasi emak ko telan kejadah ni? That's a real good boy. Ada tu nak perasan butthurt. Lanun penyamun macam bzns Herbalife amalan alkafirun ni nak perasan innocent jugak? Seriously? You reap what you sow... live with it, or go to hell. Your feelings doesn't concern me. The well-being of Malay consumers is my priority. Understand that creep. You're nothing to me... cos you promote Herbalifeshit to other people - and think you're great and noble. You're nothing but cannon-fodder and a clueless slave for those alkafirun. Understand that too.

Herbalife, Sells But Weeds And Illusions

The Belgian consumer protection magazine, "Test-Achats" sues 
the company for multi-level-sales practices forbidden by law. 

Test-Achats/November 1, 2004 

Herbalife, a well-known multinational specialised in the sale of slimming products and food supplements, benefits mainly from its far reaching network of hierarchically organised independent salesmen. As in the past, Test Achats draws the attention of consumers to the ineffectiveness of the slimming products of the Herbalife range. What is new, however, is that Test Achats has decided to sue this company for its practice of multi-level-sales which is illegal.

The diet products of Herbalife: expensive and not good - For various reasons (not enough proteins, low energy value, too expensive), Test-Achats was always very critical with regard to the diet products of the Herbalife range. Their usefulness in weight control is far from proven.

The reasons for the ineffectiveness of Herbalife's diet treatment are the following: no education to better food practices, products are systematically hypocaloric with health risks, a medicalisation of the way of life by the absorption of special products, disproportionate price compared to results obtained. All the indices of an inadequate approach of the diet coincide to create doubt as to the effectiveness of these supposedly miracle products.

Herbalife, a multi-level-sales network

These last months, Test-Achats has scrupulously analysed the techniques used by the firm. The principal objective of the Herbalife system is to recruit new distributors who must work with a statute of independent. No direct sales to the consumer occur. The methods of recruitment and distribution are varied. However, lately, and in a very aggressive way, disguised "offers of employment" (insofar as Herbalife does not appear as such) flower on the Internet and in the "employment" columns and in free for all letter box distribution. "Budget et Droits" recently carried out a fully fledged investigation (B&D 175, July 2004).

Once attracted, the interested people must take part in training courses which are real brain washing operations. During these courses a distribution contract and a basic parcel (Business pack) are proposed for a sum of 100¬. However, at this stage, the sale of these products is not of primary importance. The supervisors and other members of the "PRESIDENT'S TEAM" are quick to make the trainees understand that in order to rise within the hierarchy they may find it very beneficial to purchase large volumes of products and resell them to other new distributors whom they will have had the good taste to recruit. The higher the level one reaches in the hierarchy, the higher the commissions and the no-claims bonus and the cheaper the purchase price of the products. Regularly, consumers approached to buy products are in fact pushed to become distributors themselves, for example, to obtain reductions on the price of the products for themselves or their family. But obviously the market soon becomes saturated, and the promotion and recruitment campaigns then become increasingly aggressive.

Test-Achats wants to put an end to these dangerous and illegal practices! Test-Achats reckons that the sales system founded by Herbalife is an infringement of article 84 of the law on trade practices.

All the signs of pyramidal sales are cumulated: each member of the network grows rich primarily thanks to the purchases made by the new recruit in a completely closed sales circuit. The most important benefits are obtained not by the sale to the ultimate consumer or by the royalties obtained on the sales of the hierarchically low distributors but by the sales being carried out in a closed circuit. The benefit is mainly due to the extension of the system and this is expressly forbidden by the law. The consumers' organisation has therefore recently instituted Court proceedings against Herbalife, in the form of an action in ceasing of trading under the terms of the law on trading practices.

Test Achats thus wants the law to be respected in the interest of consumers. These latter are too often exposed to such harmful practices. They are unfortunately influenced by unrealisable promises, and this in a precarious economic context where more and more consumers are the faced with financial difficulties and unemployment.

Aidid Mu'addib Responding to Another Blog Troll in Aididleaks

I'm an academician, and I prefer writing in English, because most of my references are in English. It'd be easier so that I wouldn't have to comprehend and then translate all those texts. But, hence comes the biggest hurdle in writing this blog - lots of Malay Kids are stupid cows, that can't understand simple English. So, I try to write so that most Malay kids would understand, but at times, English sentences would come out, because they express the issue at hand better. Anyway... only stupid cows would complain about the language I used, because what is more important is the message being conveyed.

H2DSelling Cow...

1. Kenapa tak puas hati dgn produk? Sebab ada org yg dah mati sebab liver cirrhosis, dan ramai yg kena poisoning di merata dunia selama >30 tahun sebab produk "herba" yang dikilang di Changsa dan Suzhou ni - nama aje herba, tapi dalamnya ada lead, ada bacteria, ada unregulated ingredient dan ntah apekejadahnya lagi. What do u expect? Herbalife is not a pharmaceutical company, it's a Mickey Mouse company that sells MLM system, and not a real company that is selling "strictly monitored" pharmaceutical products. It's all about the money boy. Wake up, stop eating shit all the time. Just because you're a cow, you cannot use ignorance as an excuse for being a cow.

2. Kenapa org Melayu macam ni? Don't ask stupid question when people try to educate you about reality. You should ask back the same question to yourself: "Kenapa anak org Melayu macam aku?" Senang sungguh kena kelentong dgn omputeh dan chayanunalip tak habis-habis. Sure they are laughing looking down at the Malays, because lots of Malays are stupid cows. You can feed them anything, and they will believe all the MLM company's grandmother story. Even when scientists and economists amongst the Americans say that Herbalife is a huge SCAM company, you still insist otherwise. Because? Cow eat plants and plants are herbs... so Herbalife is my thingy. Is that it?

3. Ha! Dah ada link tentang halal-haram pasal MLM - but why the cow routine? Macam dah ada laptop depan lembu, lembu tu buat sardin aje. Tak faham atau tak boleh baca? Tak boleh nak adapt dgn penerangan tu pada isu Herbalife? Pakar ekonomi di Amerika tu sendiri mengklasifikasikan Herbalife sebagai "pyramid-selling", dan lawsuit yg dimenangi oleh mangsa Herbalife berlaku sebab dia org dah buktikan elemen skim piramid dlm modus operandi Herbalife kat mahkamah. You, as a stupid cow wanna say otherwise? Seriously?

That is what I have been trying to tell you all in this article. I'm not giving you infos from Malaysia (because Malaysia has lots of useless cows), but infos from all over the world. But some still insist that the infos that they get from Herbalife representative or from their uplines are of better quality. I'm here to tell you - stop eating shit. Herbalife shit. Wake up from your sleep boy. Herbalife is about the money, from an MLM with pyramid-selling that grew from America and needs new countries to survive, and they have expanded to >70 countries, as we speak. It needs to creep to new market, because that is the only way it can survive. It's the nature of any MLM & pyramid-scheme style business. 

From Finland:

Case-Reports of Liver Toxicity Linked To 

Herbalife Dietary Supplements

As I’ve always promised to suppositorise their wares to the pyramid-marketing assclowns trying to peddle their soap and supplements, I had a moment of “I told you so” when I was reading this.

Magic pills don’t make you thinner. And the more magic pills you take the more you’re bound to get sick – and then you’ll be on a magic diet. Well, of course herbs cause effects on man. You can get high or you can get low or you can wake up dead – or with a squeaky liver. The iHealthBulletinNews blog writes:

A recent issue of the Journal of Hepatology reports on over 14 cases of acute hepatotoxicity in users of in Israel and Switzerland. The researchers found it difficult to interpret the findings as they could not ascertain the exact composition of the proprietary formulas, the composition of which can even vary from country to country. Thus, they could not state definitively whether or not the weight loss supplements caused the liver injury, but they thought it important to warn the public that herb-induced severe liver injury might be more common than previously thought. It is interesting to note that 10 cases of hepatotoxicity implicating Camellia sinensis [ed - tea, such as in green tea extract] have been reported also.

Ah, so in Finland all medicine must go through arduous testing and its ingredients listed and it can only be sold at a pharmacy. But as “herbal extracts” are not “medicine” but “foodstuffs” they don’t have to be pre-screened. So next time you go popping in a pill, do ask yourself do you believe in marketing or knowledge?

Injuries Due To Herbalife And Other Dietary Supplements

Tests done on a number of Herbalife products, as well as many others, have confirmed the presence of lead, a heavy metal, that is known to cause cancer and birth defects. Additional comtaminants include arsenic, cadmiun and bacteria. If you believe that as a result of your consumption of Herbalife products or any other dietary supplement you sustained an injury, please contact a health professional, and do all the appropriate investigations.

Lead Poisoning associated with food supplement such as in Herbalife products may give rise to insidious symptoms that persist over a long period of time. Symptoms of Lead Poisoning may be hard to detect at first. The accumulation of lead usually is gradual, building up unnoticed until levels become dangerous and cause signs and symptoms. The signs and symptoms of lead poisoning are nonspecific and may include: 
- Irritability
- Loss of appetite

- Weight loss

- Sluggishness

- Abdominal pain

- Vomiting

- Constipation

- Unusual paleness (pallor) from anemia

- Learning difficulties

- Pain, numbness or tingling of the extremities muscular weakness

- Headache

- Memory loss

- Mood disorders

- Reduced sperm count, abnormal sperm.

To those taking Herbalife or similar products, be aware.

Six Dietary Supplements Sold By Herbalife Ltd

Contain Dangerous Amounts Of Lead

The Fraud Discovery Institute posted a letter on its website on Monday attributed to Christopher Grell, an attorney in Oakland, California, specializing in product liability. The letter said that recommended daily doses of six Herbalife products contained levels of lead that are dangerous and in excess of what California law allows under its Safe Drinking and Toxic Environment Act of 1994.

The law requires businesses to warn consumers if their products contain chemicals known to cause cancer or reproductive toxicity. An explanation of the law can be found on the website of California's Office of Environmental Health Hazard Assessment at: California Law.

 

The six products mentioned in the letter on the Fraud Discovery Institute website are the ShapeWorks Protein Drink Mix, Healthy Meal Nutritional Shake Mix, Tang Kuei Plus herbal tablets, Thermojetics Nature's Raw Guarana instant tea mix, ShapeWorks Cell Activator and Multivitamin Complex.

The letter posted on Monday on the Fraud Discovery Institute website urged California to order Herbalife to place "clear and reasonable warnings on these products so that the consumer is informed that these products contain chemicals known to cause developmental harm." Grell said in an interview on Monday that individual tablets may not exceed California's 0.5 microgram limit on lead in dietary supplements, but he said the daily recommended dosage would result in lead exposure large enough to warrant a warning label.

A document purported to be an invoice from Analytical Laboratories in Anaheim Inc, based in Brea, California, for $5,820 for testing the six products was posted on Fraud Discovery's website. Analytical Laboratories did not reply to calls and an e-mail to discuss any tests.

Last month, Herbalife said that Spain's Ministry of Health had issued an alert cautioning consumption of Herbalife products due to suspicious cases of hepatic toxicity, or liver damage, presumably associated with Herbalife products.

Taken from LiveStrong.com - The Lance Armstrong Foundation.

THE DANGERS OF HERBALIFE

Herbalife is a brand of popular herbal weight loss supplements that has come under controversy for its use of stimulants and other questionable ingredients. The brand is marketed and sold through a multilevel marketing system (MLM) in which individual sales representatives recruit others to both sell and consume the product. Herbalife has been investigated by the FDA for claiming that some products dissolve and remove tumors, rejuvenate, increase circulation and produce mental alertness.

Exposure to Toxic Lead Levels

Herbalife products came under scrutiny in 2008 for containing toxic levels of lead, as defined by California's Safe Drinking and Toxic Environment Act of 1994. When taken as directed, two of the company's more popular supplements exposed consumers to 8.5 and 12 times the the maximum recommended daily exposure to lead levels, according to The Fraud Files Blog, an online forensic accounting and fraud commentary website. High levels of lead can compromise the human nervous system and cause brain damage, anemia and other serious disorders. It can also result in death.

Dangers Associated with Ephedra

Many Herbalife products contained notable amounts of ephedrine and ephedrine alkaloids prior to a ban on the use of ephedra in the United States. This ban remains controversial and has been contested by some dietary supplement manufacturers. The result of this challenge meant that small amount of ephedra could be included in herbal and dietary supplements. The FDA has linked ephedra to cardiac arrest and strokes in otherwise young and healthy individuals. Other possible side effects of ephedra exposure include hypertension, insomnia, high blood pressure and other forms of heart disease.

High-Caffeine Content

Many Herbalife products contain caffeine as a metabolism booster. Caffeine can contribute to sleeplessness, nervousness, restlessness and other conditions associated with stimulants. BlogHealthyDiet.com also notes that some people may experience an allergic reaction to caffeine, and advises that you check the ingredients on any Herbalife product you may be using for this and other allergens.

Shellfish and Protein Allergies

If you are allergic to concentrated proteins, you may experience negative side effects from Herbalife products. High levels of protein can upset the body's ability to process protein. Some Herbalife products also contain shellfish, and may cause an allergic reaction as well.

Amirul said...
Rajin tol Aidid Mu'addib copy paste ye..jangan amek fakta orang je, wat fakta sendiri..kan bangga ngan fakta korang tu..btw korang ni xde keje lain ke? asyik menghadap laptop, dok merapu meriban mencaci ntah pape...dosa beb dosa..tu anak bini tu, gi la luang masa ngan diorg semua..peace bro

Aidid Mu'addib said...
Bingai dol... Fakta sendiri? Are you on ganja or chasing the dragon, boy? Nak fakta kejadahnya macamana lagik? Fakta drpd medical centers dan universiti pun tak laku ke dol? Ko nak fakta jenis apa? Jenis fakta yg budak tadika pun boleh faham, gitu? Tak dapek nak tolong doh... Kalau dah bahalol tahap lombu, humban masuk lombong tingga ajo la, lagi elok. Kalau idup ngabih boreh buek apo?

Anyway, bak sini aku cite sket dik pasal keje aku. Today I made about what a factory technician made in a month. Aku melepak depan Mac sepanjang hari, layan troll yg dungu dan bahalol tahap cipan... dan share ilmu dgn bebudak yg nak dgr cakap tentang sains dan maths. Macamana tu? Aku study rajin2 dulu, aku masuk U, aku kasi govt service sebaik mungkin 4-5 tahun, dan aku resign buat keje sendiri. Now, I'm doing OK dgn izin Allah - blog ni keje "pro bono" aku utk org Melayu. I don't get a single cent dol, while lembu Herbalife dan lain2 MLM kat luar sana jadi parasite sebok mencari mangsa utk di "lead poisoning" kan bagai nak rak... dan bila dapat rezeki buat bzns mungkar sebegini, dia orang tak lupa pulak cakap "syukur, alhamdulillah". Real fucking assholes. You a fucking asshole like those MLMers, boy?

I think there's a difference, if you're smart enough to notice. If not, no surprise there. Akhir kata (yg pertama), jgn jadi parasite MLM sejak dari kecik, dah tua nanti jadi lanun dan penyamun dan sampah masyarakat. Menyusahkan org idup saban hari nak buat apa? Biar la bersopan-santun sekali pun. Kalau dah sampah tu, sampah jugak. 

Yo bingai.... Capische?